Was Aladdin abusive?

Ok,

So I was surfing around WordPress and reading some other peoples blogs, I like to add new categories for me to review and use to broaden my horizons and find answers. Today I added Islamic to my categories and boy oh boy what I found!

It was a treasure trove of sick, fucked up, shit that they believe is their right to do.

For instance I came across a blog that mentioned having came across a rather depraved book called “A Gift for the Muslim Couple“. This seems like an innocent enough title right? WRONG!

Here are some quotes the blogger gave as examples of just how fucked up this book and the people that follow these beliefs truly are:

“In the book’s opening pages, it is written that “it might be necessary to restrain her with strength or even to threaten her.”

Later, its author advises that “the husband should treat the wife with kindness and love, even if she tends to be stupid and slow sometimes.”

How fucked up is that? You may be required to restrain her or threaten her? Why the fuck would you threaten the woman you claim to have undying love for?

Page 45 contains the rights of the husband, which include his wife’s inability to leave “his house without his permission,” and that his wife must “fulfil his desires” and “not allow herself to be untidy … but should beautify herself for him … ”

Ok… this one is a bit difficult for me to be angry over. Honestly my wife and I have a similar situation to this but not due to religious context. This is a lifestyle choice we have made due to her demeanor when dealing with the outside world, It is easier, on her, to use me as a buffer and keep her contained within her palace. But this also has nothing to do with restraining her against her will or requiring punishment when she does want to go out.

“In terms of physical punishment, the book advises that a husband may scold her, “beat by hand or stick,” withhold money from her or “pull (her) by the ears,” but should “refrain from beating her excessively.” “

Again I say, what the fuck?! Ok, I know people like being caned, and I know it’s a huge turn on for people to have that kind of shit happen, but again it is not meant as a religious or personal punishment, it is typically used as a form of sexual release. Though I am glad they thought to add “refrain from beating her excessively.”

The writer went on to talk a little more about the theme of the book:

Male dominance over women has been making headlines for some time, with the recent lengthy trial and conviction of the Shafia family.

Mohammad Shafia, 59, his second wife, Tooba Yahya, 42, and their son, Hamed, 21, were each convicted in January on four counts of first-degree murder in what was characterized as an honour killing of four female family members as punishment for disobedience. They were handed life sentences with no chance of parole for 25 years.

Shafia’s three daughters and his first wife were found drowned in a car at the bottom of the Rideau Canal in Kingston, Ont., in June 2009.

Now I have never condemned someone for having multiple mates, polygamy is fine by me, so I realize the idea of “the woman you have undying love for” can mean something different in different cultures and circumstances, but to kill them due to “defamation”, and especially to kill your children, your own fucking children.

This is amazing to me, because I have to remember that even though they call him something different Muslim’s even these extreme ones worship the christian “god”. And for such a supposed superior being to condone something like this is maddening to me. This is not a religious right, it’s criminal and I think anyone who subscribes to the thought processes in this book should be on the receiving end of it’s advice.

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Then after all of that I came across yet another blog that talked about Pakistan having almost 1,000 women and girls killed for “defaming” their family. This stretches the gamut from claims (yes claims there is no tangible proof) of illicit sexual activities, to also include marrying without permission. Can you imagine what would happen if a Muslim Extremist convention come through Las Vegas with the right to commit “honor killing”?!

Here are some of the numbers quoted in the article:

  • 595 women killed because they were accused of Illicit Sexual Activities
  • 219 women killed for marrying without permission
  • 20 women were provided medical attention before dying

That’s 20 out of over 800 just accounted for in that small list that received any form of remorse from what is often their family, fathers, brothers, sons, uncles or grandfathers. Not to mention the article mentioned that some of them were raped or gang raped before being killed. That means the same faces that these women started their days with are likely the faces they saw in the last moments of their life, contorted in violence and hate towards the women that depend upon these same men for safety and comfort. But if we think like these people this should not be disgusting to me, this is the will of god and an act of mercy.

Disgusting…..

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Wait there’s more… this is a day for fucked up articles.

EXTRA EXTRA READ ALL ABOUT IT!!!

” ISLAMABAD: The minister for national harmony has alleged that about 100 non-Muslims, mostly Hindus girls, were forced to convert to Islam in recent months.  “

What the fuck? Really? Forcing hindu girls to become Muslim’s? WHY?! (this takes Mandated Worship to the extreme)

Here are some quotes from the article and my responses, the quotes are in italics, my responses are in bold:

“Learning the basic principals and teaching of Islam should be made obligatory, under the proposed laws for all those non-Muslims who decided to embrace Islam.” 

A friend of mine is a very serious Muslim. And he explained that they don’t even force their children to look towards Islam and only speak of their beliefs when asked directly. This is in direct opposition to forced conversion.

“I am not sure about the exact number of such cases in the absence of accurate data for such incidents, but the figure of such cases is about 100,” he said. Gill added that the minority members of the Parliament have recommended that the federal government introduce legislation to check forced conversion.

Why has there not been situations like this earlier? Do women not matter that much to the Christian faiths? Oh I know, they’re just vessels for children.

The minister cited ‘sexual lust’ as the key reason that made Muslim men force non-Muslim girls to convert. “The Hindu girls were being sexually abused by the young Muslim men who forced them to convert when their sexual offence became an issue in the society,” he explained.

Wait.. wait… what? You’re telling me that they are justifying forced conversion with rape? Now which one is worse? Living in the western world where we worship our women to a fault, makes this concept seem very foreign to me. That these young men have gotten away with sexually abusing young women to a point that to answer it becoming an issue they forced them to convert, most likely making it suddenly legal to continue sexually abusing these women.

“Those young people accept such girls as their legal wives with the pre-condition that they embrace Islam. The girls were kidnapped by young men and after meeting their sexual desire they were forced to change their religion and convert to Islam,” Gill said.

So they raped them, they kidnapped them, forced them to marry them, with the pre-condition that they embrace Islam, rape them again and then enforce their conversion to Islam. Why does this not sound completely fucked up?! And we wonder why slavery and human trafficking still exists in these parts of the world.

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This alone tells me that considerations for the Islamic religion may be held for a while until this stuff starts to come under control. Culture is a big part of religion, and I can tell you with all confidence, I can’t even imagine a god that would condone such actions towards the mothers of the world.

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  1. #1 by ketutar on April 17, 2012 - 12:08 am

    “A Gift For Muslim Couple” is written by a man who died 1943. You should read the guides to wives written in Christian Western society at the same time. They really don’t differ much.

    Marital rape was legal in USA up until 80’s, and it really wasn’t before 90’s when it became “a real crime”, and still it is considered a “lesser offense” in most parts of USA and really hard to prove.

    If you are thinking about the fact that someone has compiled this little book in modern times, and it is being sold and bought today, you should know that there is a movement called “Christian Domestic Discipline”. A lot of books are written, there’s a lot of blogs and sites, that could be quoting the “Gift For Muslim Couple”. You could rewrite it and replace all the references to Islam with references to Christianity, and these people would buy it and welcome it as a wise and valuable addition to their cause.

    There are even women writing romance novels, where women are being beaten into submission, even killed for being obstinate and disloyal. In one very popular one the main character is being “disciplined”, even anal raped, by her husband for things like forgetting to fill the salt shaker… and the woman cries “filled with remorse” and apologizes for being such a bad woman and forcing her husband to take his precious time to discipline her, because it hurts him more than her…
    Yes, seriously.

    No, it’s not talked about. In USA you have the right and freedom to do what ever you want, especially if you are Christian and white, and if you have any objections, you are a frakking feminist who want to limit their constitutional rights and freedoms and you attack God and His Holy Order.

    We don’t know about the Christian honor killings in USA, because they are not called that. 1/3 of all women murdered in USA were killed by their husbands or exes. I’m pretty sure most of these men would refer to the very same reasons behind the murder as the Muslim honor murderers. “She was unfaithful” – in thought if not in action – “she was disrespectful”, “she was disobedient”… or something.

    We are not told of all the girls who are being punished by their Christian parents for getting raped. There was some talk about a preacher who said it would have been better for a girl to get killed than survive a rape, because now she is a dirty whore and no decent man would ever want to marry her. His congregation agreed.
    How many rape victims have been ostracized by their Christian families and friends? There are cases when it is more merciful to kill someone than allow her to live in constant pain, bashing, bullying and mental torture. Many incest victims and bullied kids kill themselves because they can’t live with the pain, and what is that anything but murder, really? Murdered by the people who raped, bullied, condoned, ostracized, blamed the victim…
    Just watch Virgin Suicides and Carrie.

    We know about some forced marriages in Christian USA because the wives came forth and told about it – AFTERWARDS. While it was happening, no-one said anything. And, believe me, it’s still happening. The majority don’t object and don’t talk about it.

    It’s just that there’s a war on Islam and the Western society is still very much orientalist, so people are keeping an eye on these things in Middle East and making extreme things into norm. We live in the Western society, so we KNOW extreme is not the norm.

    Honor murders are not part of Islam. People who “honor murder”, find justification in their religion, which ever it is. I find it interesting that the Christian Islam-bashing community was extremely quick to denounce the Norwegian mass-murderer’s Christianity, even though HE uses it as a reason for his deeds. He killed the youngsters because they were a threat to his Christian Norway… But when Muslims try to say extreme things like honor murders are not part of Islam, they are accused of lying.

    Don’t make the mistake of blaming God for the crimes people justify by religion. Don’t even make the mistake of blaming the religion. Blame the people and their mindset, and remember that these people are everywhere. They come in every color, race, creed, nationality etc.

    • #2 by Derik on April 17, 2012 - 12:34 am

      While you are absolutely correct that these things exist in most cultures and religious societies even today and even in places like the USA. I have to point out that it has not even gotten to a point where they have begun to truly consider outlawing these things in these other countries, and that is the issue, these countries are lead as Religiously Ran Governments and in so the religion and the Government that has not condemned these actions are the true criminals. For instance, part of this post dealt with Muslim boys going and sexually assaulting Hindu girls, then when it was discouraged (not outlawed, just discouraged) they decided it would be better to force them into conversion through kidnapping. The sexual assault and the kidnapping were not addressed, instead they want to outlaw forced conversion, now tell me, if you were raped and assaulted while being held against your will, until you converted, would you admit to having been forced by your “husband”/kidnapper?

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